Sunday, December 10, 2006

RE: FW: RE: Munkatch(Mukachevo)

-----Original Message-----
From: Reuven Chaim Klein [mailto:anakin9000@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, December 10, 2006 8:56 PM
To: 'JULES LAPIN'
Subject: RE: FW: RE: Munkatch(Mukachevo)

It doesn't look at all familiar. Sorry.

-----Original Message-----
From: JULES LAPIN [mailto:JLAPIN4@comcast.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 28, 2006 4:15 PM
To: kleinboys@sbcglobal.net
Subject: Re: FW: RE: Munkatch(Mukachevo)

Mr. Klein,

I'm wondering if you have anything on my Grandfather;

Elias Friedman:

ELIAS3 FRIEDMAN (LEVA2, HERSHEL1) was born 25 May 1893 in Olava, Transilvania, Hungarian Empire, and died 13 Jun 1982 in Highland Park, IL. He married LILLIAN MARKOVITZ 25 Dec 1919 in Chicago, IL, daughter of MORDEICI MARKOVITZ and TOBY. She was born 15 Apr 1900 in Olava, Transilvania, Hungarian Empire, and died 18 Feb 1959 in Evanston, IL.


Or, his father, Hershel Friedman

I believe Olava was very close to Mukachevo. Please pass this on to Nathan Rosenshein.

Thanks,

Jules S. Lapin

-------------- Original message ----------------------
From: JLAPIN4@comcast.net (JULES LAPIN)
>
> -------------- Forwarded Message: --------------
> From: "Kleinboys"
> To:
> Cc:
> Subject: RE: Munkatch(Mukachevo)
> Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 03:23:54 +0000
> > Perhaps you can give me first names and I'll see if it matches
> > anything in my research. I'm carbon-copying this email to fellow
> > researcher Nathan Rosenshein, perhaps he will be able to help you.
> >
> > I don't really have time to maintain the family tree and the website
> > like I used to. The best thing to do would be to email me any
> > corrections and eventually they will show up when I make a new
> > version of the site (which I last did Feb. 2005, so who knows when I
> > will have more time for my genealogy work). If you have anything
> > specific that you would like to discuss you can email me and I should get back to you within 2 or 3 weeks.
> >
> > Sorry for the delayed response this time around.
> >
> > Gut Voch,
> >
> >
> > =====
> > Reuven Chaim Klein
> >
> > http://www.myhomeloancompany.com Vice President AIM/AOL Screename:
> > IAmRachack ( Add|
> > > > website!>
> > IM)
> >
> > (Attention: Usually I can only check my email on Friday Afternoon
> > and Motzei
> > Shabbos.)
> >
> >
> > _____
> >
> > From: jlapin4@comcast.net [mailto:jlapin4@comcast.net]
> > Sent: Monday, January 09, 2006 7:06 AM
> > To: Kleinboys@sbcglobal.net
> > Subject: re: Munkatch(Mukachevo)
> >
> >
> > hello,
> > I was looking up Munkatch(Mukachevo) on the Web and found the posting below.
> > My grandfather was a Friedman from a city called Oyliva near
> > Munkatch(Mukachevo). Do you have any info on Munkatch(Mukachevo) or
> > recomendatinos for me?
> >
> > _____ ______ ___
> >
> > Attention: I am in Yeshiva during the week and I can only check me
> > email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos, so please be aware of
> > this.)
> >
> > Surnames being researched:
> > In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a
> > village called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
> > ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH In Bonyhad, a
> > village in Hungary: KUTTNER From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM,
> > SIRKES
> >
> >
> >
>
>

Thursday, October 19, 2006

RE: Isserles/Weissblum

I only have Kabbalos from my family that I am a descendant of the ReMa and Noam Elimelech but I don't know exactly how. Although the Kabbalah about the Noam Elimelech comes from my father's father's mother's side of the family.
 

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Reuven Chaim Klein
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins


From: Yeruchem & Fraida Cohen [mailto:yeruchem@bestweb.net]
Sent: Tuesday, August 22, 2006 5:20 PM
To: rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: Isserles/Weissblum

I was reading your old post on the JewishGen website archives and was wondering if you have information about Weissblum and Isserles families. 
 
I am the genealogist of our family. Pomerantz familiy members have requested me to look into it a possible connection with Rav Moshe Isserles. 
 
My husband has Weissblum cousins and one relative (Blau, nee Leidner) tells me that these Weissblums descend from R. Elimelech of Lizensk.  Some other family members mentioned that they have heard that their family is descended from a "Rabbi Isserles", as they put it.
 
If you have information about the two surnames ISSERLES and WEISSBLUM that you can share with me, perhaps I can determine if what they think is true.  
 
All the best,
Fraida Cohen
Monsey, NY
 
POMERANTZ/POMERANZ from Baranow, Mielec, Tarnow, Krakow
GETTINGER from Mielec
COHEN from Minsk or Wilna or "Wolynia"
HODES from Minsk
 
TAUBER from "Harasz," Austria (Galicia?)
MARKS/MARKUS from Pultusk, Poland
POMERANTZ/POMERANZ from Warsaw
SCHALL from Galicia
HOLRIE from England
 
 
Date: Sun, 11 Jun 2006 14:39:52 -0700
From: "Reuven Chaim Klein" <rachack@futurecities.com>
Subject: Rabbi SEGAL, CHARIF, and HALEVI
 
For quite some time now, I have known that my gggg-grandfather, Rabbi
Binyamin Eliezer Ungar-Auerbach of Krakow (father of Rabbi Reuven Chaim
Klein wrote the Shenos Chaim) married the daughter of Rabbi Ya'akov HaLevi
from Wolbrom. Rav Ya'akov HaLevi was the brother of Rav Yosef Lichtig/Charif
HaLevi. The brothers were in turn sons of Rabbi Tzvi Hirsch HaLevi, who was
a direct male descendant of Rabbi Dovid Segal HaLevi, the TaZ (Turei Zahav).
For some time I have been looking for the exact line of connection between
Rav Tzvi Hirsch HaLevi and his direct male ansector the TaZ. I have yet to
get the exact line of lineage. However, I recently found out that the
Maharsha (who lived in the same era as the TaZ and was also a Levi) had a
son-in-law named Rabbi Yitzchack Segal Charif HaLevi. I was wondering if
this son-in-law of the Maharsha had anything to do with the line which I am
trying to trace here.
 
(See http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins for more of my research in my
family's genealogy project.)
 
Surnames being researched:
In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village called
Kleczanev or Klyachanovo ):
ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN, MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES

Quick question about the TaZ

 
 
==
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http://rchaimqoton.blogspot.com
 


From: Reb Chaim HaQoton [mailto:rchaimqoton@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 4:50 PM
To: 'Larry Tauber'
Subject: RE: Quick question about the TaZ

ok
 
==
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http://rchaimqoton.blogspot.com
 


From: Larry Tauber [mailto:ltauber@ctswlaw.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 4:26 PM
To: Reb Chaim HaQoton
Subject: RE: Quick question about the TaZ

Actually, he was probably born about 1745 (assuming he lived about 75 years) so probably add one more generation. I will see if I can find out more.
-----Original Message-----
From: Reb Chaim HaQoton [mailto:rchaimqoton@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 6:02 PM
To: Larry Tauber
Subject: RE: Quick question about the TaZ

I see
 
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http://rchaimqoton.blogspot.com
 


From: Larry Tauber [mailto:ltauber@ctswlaw.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 8:39 AM
To: Reb Chaim HaQoton
Subject: RE: Quick question about the TaZ

I am no expert, but to my knowledge, the TAZ had two children who died young and without issue in 1611, R. Shlomo and R. Mordechai, who were killed in the Lemberg riots of 1664, a son, Isaiah of Komerna, a daughter who was the first wife of R. Meir Heilprin, another daughter who married R. Gad, and, according to some sources, another son, R. Samuel, who was the son-in-law of R. Samson of Ostropoli.   If R. Yakov Halevi Segal died in 5579 (1819), this would mean he was likely born around 1725.  It is highly unlikely for him to have been a grandson to the TAZ who lived from 1586.-1667. However, in Hebrew the term neched meaning grandson is also used to mean a later descendant, so it seems more likely that R. Yakov is 4-5 generations removed from teh TAZ.  Segal is the name adopted by several descendants of the TAZ. 
-----Original Message-----
From: Reb Chaim HaQoton [mailto:rchaimqoton@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 3:09 AM
To: Larry Tauber
Subject: Quick question about the TaZ

You seem to be the internet's expert on the Turei Zahav's family. Do you happen to know if the TaZ had a son or son-in-law who was a Levi named Tzvi? Please see the quotation below from http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/wolbrom/wol046.html which seems to imply that Reb Yakov HaLevi was a grandson of the TaZ, so his father Reb Tzvi, must have been a son or son-in-law of the TaZ.
 
 
There was the death of yet another Wolbromer Rav in Krakow, after he had left his post in Wolbrom and became Rav in Krakow. About him there exist more facts. This was the Rav Yaakov Halevi Sg"l B"hR' Tsvi, a Rav in Galicia's Dambrova, a grandson of the great Rebbi Dovid Halevi (auther of Toori-Zahav). In his youth, Rebbi Yaakov learned by the Gaon Rebbi Yehudah Liber Harif (that his name should be remembered with blessing; a son of R. Binyamin Korngold, born in Krakow). Rebbi Yaakov learned by him together with his brother, Rebbi Yosef Harif Halevi Abd"k Zbaraf in Hungary. After Rebbi Yaakov received ordination he became Rav in Wolbrom, and there he set to work in Torah and the service of Hashem, and corresponded with the Greats of the generation. From the rabbinical responsa literature we know that he corresponded with two of the Greats: Rebbi Elazar Lev, composer of the book of responsa "Shemen Rukeach", and Rav Pusek, Rebbi Avraham Tsvi-Hirshl, Rav in Pilica and afterwards in Pietrkov. The same two rabinical greats (Gaons) wrote to him and proffered upon him great honor with important titles. Rebbi Yaakov Halevi finally left his post in Wolbrom and grew even greater, he was nominated as Rosh of the Beis- Din in Krakow. He died the second of Heshvon, 5579 (according to the Pinkas - book of records - of the community).
 
Thank you in advance for your help,
 
==
Reb Chaim HaQoton

Rivke Sirkes

-----Original Message-----
From: Reuven Chaim Klein [mailto:anakin9000@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 2:35 PM
To: 'nholden'
Subject: RE: Rivke Sirkes

Yes that is the TaZ. MY ggg-grandfather was the grandson of Rabbi Yaakov
HaLevi, brother of Rabbi Yosef Charif, who was the Chief Rabbi of Wolbrom
and was a descendant of the TaZ.

See this quote from http://www.jewishgen.org/Yizkor/wolbrom/wol046.html :

"There was the death of yet another Wolbromer Rav in Krakow, after he had
left his post in Wolbrom and became Rav in Krakow. About him there exist
more facts. This was the Rav Yaakov Halevi Sg"l B"hR' Tsvi, a Rav in
Galicia's Dambrova, a grandson of the great Rebbi Dovid Halevi (auther of
Toori-Zahav). In his youth, Rebbi Yaakov learned by the Gaon Rebbi Yehudah
Liber Harif (that his name should be remembered with blessing; a son of R.
Binyamin Korngold, born in Krakow). Rebbi Yaakov learned by him together
with his brother, Rebbi Yosef Harif Halevi Abd"k Zbaraf in Hungary. After
Rebbi Yaakov received ordination he became Rav in Wolbrom, and there he set
to work in Torah and the service of Hashem, and corresponded with the Greats
of the generation. From the rabbinical responsa literature we know that he
corresponded with two of the Greats: Rebbi Elazar Lev, composer of the book
of responsa "Shemen Rukeach", and Rav Pusek, Rebbi Avraham Tsvi-Hirshl, Rav
in Pilica and afterwards in Pietrkov. The same two rabinical greats (Gaons)
wrote to him and proffered upon him great honor with important titles. Rebbi
Yaakov Halevi finally left his post in Wolbrom and grew even greater, he was
nominated as Rosh of the Beis- Din in Krakow. He died the second of Heshvon,
5579 (according to the Pinkas - book of records - of the community)."

-----Original Message-----
From: nholden [mailto:nholden@interserv.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 19, 2006 2:29 PM
To: 'Reuven Chaim Klein'
Subject: RE: Rivke Sirkes

You have Rivke Sirkes married to Dovid Segal. . . Is this David HaTaZ? David
(HaRabbanim number 4882) b. Samuel ha-Levi. How are you related to this
person? You just have her isolated in the Family Tree that you have on your
site.

Thanks
Nancy

-----Original Message-----
From: Reuven Chaim Klein [mailto:anakin9000@yahoo.com]
Sent: Wednesday, October 18, 2006 4:52 PM
To: 'nholden'
Subject: RE: Rivke Sirkes

It's back up Baruch HaShem. http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins

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-----Original Message-----
From: Reuven Chaim Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 4:07 PM
To: 'nholden'
Subject: RE: Rivke Sirkes

Ya, my website has been down for almost 2 weeks already. We're having some
tech problems.

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-----Original Message-----
From: nholden [mailto:nholden@interserv.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 03, 2006 3:23 PM
To: Rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: Rivke Sirkes

I am a descendant of Smuel Tzvi Hirsch and Rivke Sirkes. I see that you once
had a web page with information on this family. I would like to hear from
you if this letter goes through.
Thanks
Nancy Holden
http://www.eliezerkaler.com

The JewishGen Family Finder:

-----Original Message-----
From: Reuven Chaim Klein [mailto:anakin9000@yahoo.com]
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 2:51 PM
To: 'nrd1616@aol.com'
Subject: RE: The JewishGen Family Finder:

My earliest traceable direct anscetor was Binyamin Eliezer Ungar-Auerbach
who was on the Bais Din of Wolbrom, but I know nothing beyond him. His son,
my ggg-grandfather, changed the last name to KLEIN, his name was R' Reuven
Chaim Klein and he wrote the sefer Shenos Chaim.

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-----Original Message-----
From: Nechama (Norma) Dreyfuss [mailto:JGJGFF@lyris.jewishgen.org]
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 1:18 PM
To: rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: The JewishGen Family Finder:

- From : Nechama (Norma) Dreyfuss, (researcher code 69162) nrd1616@aol.com
- To : Reuven Chaim Klein, (researcher code 106665)
- Subject : The JewishGen Family Finder:
=======================================================
Shalom
I'm trying to find info on R. Shmuel Ungar who was the Rav in Wolbrom,
Pelica, Olkusz in the beginning of the 1800s.
He was an einikel of the Maharshak. Can you help?
N Dreyfus
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Klein family

-----Original Message-----
From: Reuven Chaim Klein [mailto:anakin9000@yahoo.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:21 PM
To: 'Michael Patrick'
Subject: RE: Klein family

If you so wish.

-----Original Message-----
From: Michael Patrick [mailto:melvillepatricks@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 8:15 PM
To: anakin9000@yahoo.com
Subject: RE: Klein family

Not my family. But I do know a Jewish Genner who is an Auerbach. Would you
mind if I forward this info to her? Elizabeth

>From: "Reuven Chaim Klein" <anakin9000@yahoo.com>
>To: "'Michael Patrick'" <melvillepatricks@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Klein family
>Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:37:26 -0700
>
>Ungar-Auerbach
>
> _____
>
>From: Michael Patrick [mailto:melvillepatricks@hotmail.com]
>Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 4:20 PM
>To: anakin9000@yahoo.com
>Subject: RE: Klein family
>
>
>
>Thanks so much for your prompt reply. If you don't mind, can you tell
>me the preceding family name? Our family is famous for this; perhaps
>something will click. Thanks again, Elizabeth
>
>
>
>
> _____
>
>From: "Reuven Chaim Klein" <anakin9000@yahoo.com>
>To: "'Michael Patrick'" <melvillepatricks@hotmail.com>
>Subject: RE: Klein family
>Date: Thu, 17 Aug 2006 15:19:25 -0700
> >Sorry, my website has been down for approximately three weeks and if
> >supposed to be back online any day now. None of the names you wrote
> >sound familiar. My family are descendnats of Reuven Chaim Klein who
> >wrote the Shenos Chaim, he was my ggg-grandfather, before that we did
> >not have the last name Klein.
> >
> >
> >=====
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> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Michael Patrick [mailto:melvillepatricks@hotmail.com]
> >Sent: Thursday, August 17, 2006 1:55 PM
> >To: rachack@futurecities.com
> >Subject: Klein family
> >
> >Hello - I'm Elizabeth Berger Patrick, a Klein descendent. I
> >attempted to access your family tree webpage, but received error messages
instead.
> >Wondering if anything I have ties in to your research:
> >
> >My forbear (gg grandfather) was Rav Yechiel Mechel Klein. It is said
>that
> >he was Rav of a town called Secas ("Say-kash") now in Romania, 45
> >minute drive east of Timosara. It is also said that he died of
> >appendicitis at
>a
> >hospital in Nagy Caro, Hungary (now Carei Romania.)
> >
> >Rav Yechiel Mechel Klein married Hinda Leah (surname?) They lived in
> >Ermihalyfalvah, Hungary; now Valea Lui Falvah, Romania. They had
> >five
> >children: Yosef Yoel, Yitzchok Yehuda (my ggrandfather,) Ruchel,
> >Yitel
>Klein
> >Meisel, Chaya.
> >
> >If any of this is familiar to you, would you please let me know.
> >Thank
>you,
> >Elizabeth
> >
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RE: The JewishGen Family Finder:

I don't know much about the Ungar part of my family because my earliest known relative (father's father's father's...) was named R' Binyamin Eliezer Ungar-Auerbach, he was the son-in-law of the Rav of Wolbrom and Krakow, Rabbi Yaakov HaLevi (brother of Rav Yoseph Charif), and his son, R' Reuven Chaim Klein changed the lastname from Ungar-Auerbach to Klein.
 
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http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins


From: NRD1616@aol.com [mailto:NRD1616@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, August 21, 2006 12:39 PM
To: anakin9000@yahoo.com
Subject: Re: The JewishGen Family Finder:

Please email me if you know of any previous yichus you know that came from R. Ungar.
It seems that you're Rav Ungar and mine lived during the same time, give or take a generation.  Since it is not a common name, and they were both in the Rabanus, Bais Din, they may have been related.
N Dreyfuss

The JewishGen Family Finder:

-----Original Message-----
From: Norma Dreyfuss [mailto:NDreyfuss@nextel.blackberry.net]
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 3:58 PM
To: Reuven Chaim Klein
Subject: Re: The JewishGen Family Finder:

Can you estimate the year he lived? Do you know his wifes name? Do you know
her yichus? Do you know the R. Kleins names of his ancestors?
Nd
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-----Original Message-----
From: "Reuven Chaim Klein" <anakin9000@yahoo.com>
Date: Sun, 20 Aug 2006 14:51:03
To:<nrd1616@aol.com>
Subject: RE: The JewishGen Family Finder:

My earliest traceable direct anscetor was Binyamin Eliezer Ungar-Auerbach
who was on the Bais Din of Wolbrom, but I know nothing beyond him. His son,
my ggg-grandfather, changed the last name to KLEIN, his name was R' Reuven
Chaim Klein and he wrote the sefer Shenos Chaim.

=====
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http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
Vice President
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Shabbos.)

-----Original Message-----
From: Nechama (Norma) Dreyfuss [mailto:JGJGFF@lyris.jewishgen.org]
Sent: Sunday, August 20, 2006 1:18 PM
To: rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: The JewishGen Family Finder:

- From : Nechama (Norma) Dreyfuss, (researcher code 69162) nrd1616@aol.com
- To : Reuven Chaim Klein, (researcher code 106665)
- Subject : The JewishGen Family Finder:
=======================================================
Shalom
I'm trying to find info on R. Shmuel Ungar who was the Rav in Wolbrom,
Pelica, Olkusz in the beginning of the 1800s.
He was an einikel of the Maharshak. Can you help?
N Dreyfus
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Friday, July 21, 2006

RE: rab bi aisel harif

-----Original Message-----
From: Reuven Chaim Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Friday, July 21, 2006 5:58 PM
To: 'Ruth Cohen Harif'
Subject: RE: rab bi aisel harif

I don't believe I've ever heard of that Rabbi, sorry. My Charif family comes from my gggg-grandfather Rabbi Ya'akov HaLevi the brother of Rabbi Yosef Charif.

Gut Shabbos

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-----Original Message-----
From: Ruth Cohen Harif [mailto:ruthcohenharif@hotmail.com]
Sent: Monday, July 10, 2006 5:47 AM
To: rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: rab bi aisel harif

are you related to rabbi aisel harif
i am his gggranddaughter
living in jerusalem
shalom
ruth cohen harif

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Saturday, July 01, 2006

Re: The JewishGen Family Finder:


-----Original Message-----
From: Reuven Chaim Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Saturday, July 01, 2006 10:54 PM
To: 'YAELB7@NETVISION.NET.IL'
Subject: RE: The JewishGen Family Finder:

Please see my site http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins

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-----Original Message-----
From: Noam Bash [mailto:JGJGFF@lyris.jewishgen.org]
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 12:11 AM
To: rachack@futurecities.com
Subject: The JewishGen Family Finder:

- From : Noam Bash, (researcher code 223952) YAELB7@NETVISION.NET.IL
- To : Reuven Chaim Klein, (researcher code 106665)
- Subject : The JewishGen Family Finder:
=======================================================

SHALOM
I AM LOOKING KLEIN FROM MUNKACS THAT THE NAME FATHER IS SAMUEL AND MATHER
SARA.

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(Fwd) Re: [ravsig] Connecting to the TaZ and R' Yitzhak Segal

From: barmag@netvision.net.il [mailto:barmag@netvision.net.il]
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 7:27 AM
To: Reuven Chaim Klein
Subject: RE: (Fwd) Re: [ravsig] Connecting to the TaZ and R' Yitzhak Segal

> I think I was a little unclear on my original message, so let me try
> to fix it up better.
I'm sorry for the misunderstanding.

> First of all, Rabbi Binyamin Eliezer
> Ungar-Auerbach was not my grandfather, he was rather my
> gggg-grandfather.
The two surnames are probably taken from two different ancestors, and as I understand, you don't know much about this Auerbach family.

> I was trying to say that his father-in-law, Rabbi
> Yaakov HaLevi was a ABD in Krakow, not that he was.The GED file on my
> site is very outdated and hasn't been fixed for over a year. Reb
> Yaakov HaLevi was a direct male descendant of the TaZ (they were both
> Leviim), although I can't trace that exact lineage, which is what I am
> trying to do. Perhaps your book can help me. Can you please check if
> it mentioned this ABD of Krakow, Reb Ya'akov Litzas HaLevi, who was
> the brother of Rav Yosef Charif-Lichtig and the son of Reb Tzvi HaLevi
> (and again all these Leviim are direct male descendents of the TaZ)
> and their exact lineage to the TaZ?
Although the book mentions a Rabbi Yakov Charif ABD Leshnov and a Rabbi Chaim Yakov Halevi Charif ABD Polnoe, there is no mention of a "R' Yakov Yitzas Halevi the son of Tzvi Halevi".

> Would you be willing to send me
> the information tracing the TaZ and BACH all the way to Dovid
> HaMelech, it would be very interesting for me.
I think it would be worthwhile for you to get a copy of this book which concentrates on the lineage of the family with its more than 700 ancestors directly linked to Dovid Hamelech. This hard-cover books contains 200 pages of our family genealogy and is replete with charts, yahrtzeits and a concise easy to follow index.

Gut Shabbos & Kol Tuv
MGriffel

> From: barmag@netvision.net.il [mailto:barmag@netvision.net.il]
> Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 4:43 AM
> To: Reuven Chaim Klein
> Subject: RE: (Fwd) Re: [ravsig] Connecting to the TaZ and R' Yitzhak
> Segal
>
>
> > Rabbi Binyamin Eliezer Ungar-Auerbach is the oldest relative I can
> > trace up my direct male line. All I know was that he lived in Krakow
> > and was the son-in-law of the Rosh Beis Din of Krakow, Rabbi Ya'akov
> > HaLevi (formerly of Wolbrom). R' Ya'akov passed away on 10 October
> > 1828.
>
> Although your grandfather used both names Unger & Auerbach, I assume
> he was probably not the son of an Auerbach but of an Unger and/or
> Unger-Auerbach. I don't recall an Av Beis Din in Krakow by the name of
> Auerbach during my research. The Auerbach ancestor I am a descendant
> from is the famous Rabbi Nachman Zev Auerbach ABD Monasterzyska
> (1789-1855), son of Rabbi David Tzvi ABD Kremenetz and Mogilev
> (1743-1808), son of Rabbi Arye Leibish Auerbach ABD Stanislav
> (1710-1749).
>
> I wanted to study your family tree and your connection to the Taz, so
> I downloaded your gedcom file. Apparently, there is no name on your
> tree actually connected to the Taz. Is your ancestor, Tzvi Hirsch
> Litzas Halevi, a descendant?
>
> BTW, the surname of the Taz's mother-in-law, Baila, is not "Fum". Her
> father, Rabbi Avraham Hertzkes "was a Fum (or rather Pum)
> (peh-vov-mem) in Lwow", which stands for "Parness uManhig". He was the
> son of Rabbi Naftali Hertz (Rosh Mesivta in Lwow), hence his surname,
> Hertzkes.
>
> After 18 years of research, we recently published a family genealogy
> book detailing in graphic description the lineage of the family with
> its more than 700 ancestors directly linked to King David. As a
> descendant of the Taz, the Bach and the Auerbachs, their genealogy
> tree is part of this book.
>
> MGriffel
> Jerusalem
>

(Fwd) Re: [ravsig] Connecting to the TaZ and R' Yitzhak Segal

From: Reuven Chaim Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 10:55 PM
To: 'barmag@netvision.net.il'
Subject: RE: (Fwd) Re: [ravsig] Connecting to the TaZ and R' Yitzhak Segal

I think I was a little unclear on my original message, so let me try to fix it up better. First of all, Rabbi Binyamin Eliezer Ungar-Auerbach was not my grandfather, he was rather my gggg-grandfather. I was trying to say that his father-in-law, Rabbi Yaakov HaLevi was a ABD in Krakow, not that he was.The GED file on my site is very outdated and hasn't been fixed for over a year. Reb Yaakov HaLevi was a direct male descendant of the TaZ (they were both Leviim), although I can't trace that exact lineage, which is what I am trying to do. Perhaps your book can help me. Can you please check if it mentioned this ABD of Krakow, Reb Ya'akov Litzas HaLevi, who was the brother of Rav Yosef Charif-Lichtig and the son of Reb Tzvi HaLevi (and again all these Leviim are direct male descendents of the TaZ) and their exact lineage to the TaZ? Would you be willing to send me the information tracing the TaZ and BACH all the way to Dovid HaMelech, it would be very interesting for me.
 
Sorry for the misunderstandings and thank you for all your help.
 
Gut Shabbos,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
Vice President
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
 
(Attention: Usually I can only check my email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei Shabbos.)
 


From: barmag@netvision.net.il [mailto:barmag@netvision.net.il]
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 4:43 AM
To: Reuven Chaim Klein
Subject: RE: (Fwd) Re: [ravsig] Connecting to the TaZ and R' Yitzhak Segal

> Rabbi Binyamin Eliezer Ungar-Auerbach is the oldest relative I can
> trace up my direct male line. All I know was that he lived in Krakow
> and was the son-in-law of the Rosh Beis Din of Krakow, Rabbi Ya'akov
> HaLevi (formerly of Wolbrom). R' Ya'akov passed away on 10 October
> 1828.

Although your grandfather used both names Unger & Auerbach, I assume he was probably not the son of an Auerbach but of an Unger and/or Unger-Auerbach. I don't recall an Av Beis Din in Krakow by the name of Auerbach during my research. The Auerbach ancestor I am a descendant from is the famous Rabbi Nachman Zev Auerbach ABD Monasterzyska (1789-1855), son of Rabbi David Tzvi ABD Kremenetz and Mogilev (1743-1808), son of Rabbi Arye Leibish Auerbach ABD Stanislav (1710-1749).

I wanted to study your family tree and your connection to the Taz, so I downloaded your gedcom file. Apparently, there is no name on your tree actually connected to the Taz. Is your ancestor, Tzvi Hirsch Litzas Halevi, a descendant?

BTW, the surname of the Taz's mother-in-law, Baila, is not "Fum". Her father, Rabbi Avraham Hertzkes "was a Fum (or rather Pum) (peh-vov-mem) in Lwow", which stands for "Parness uManhig". He was the son of Rabbi Naftali Hertz (Rosh Mesivta in Lwow), hence his surname, Hertzkes.

After 18 years of research, we recently published a family genealogy book detailing in graphic description the lineage of the family with its more than 700 ancestors directly linked to King David. As a descendant of the Taz, the Bach and the Auerbachs, their genealogy tree is part of this book.

MGriffel
Jerusalem

Friday, June 30, 2006

Re: [ravsig] Connecting to the TaZ and R' Yitzhak Segal CHARIF


-----Original Message-----
From: Reuven Chaim Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Friday, June 30, 2006 1:43 PM
To: 'Larry Tauber'
Subject: RE: [ravsig] Connecting to the TaZ and R' Yitzhak Segal CHARIF

Thank you, sir.

Gut Shabbos,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
Vice President
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)

(Attention: Usually I can only check my email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei
Shabbos.)

-----Original Message-----
From: Larry Tauber [mailto:ltauber@ctswlaw.com]
Sent: Tuesday, June 27, 2006 1:18 PM
To: Reuven Chaim Klein
Subject: RE: [ravsig] Connecting to the TaZ and R' Yitzhak Segal CHARIF

Dear Reuven:

Here is a copy of the article. I also attached a chart that was not
printed.

Regards,

Larry Tauber

-----Original Message-----
From: Reuven Chaim Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 1:57 AM
To: Larry Tauber
Cc: nholden@interserv.com
Subject: RE: [ravsig] Connecting to the TaZ and R' Yitzhak Segal CHARIF

Would it be possible to just get the article without actually purchasing the
entire publication?

Gut Shabbos,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
Vice President
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)

(Attention: Usually I can only check my email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei
Shabbos.)

-----Original Message-----
From: nholden@interserv.com [mailto:nholden@interserv.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 6:35 AM
To: Reuven Chaim Klein
Subject: RE: [ravsig] Connecting to the TaZ and R' Yitzhak Segal CHARIF

Dear Reuven,
I will gladly send you a copy of Larry Tauber's article. We have a policy of
charging for back issues. Please send 5$ to JGSLA P.O. BOx 55443 Sherman
Oaks Califonia 91413
Then send me your snail mail address.
I believe you have our organization confused with the JGS of Ventura County.
Our website is http://www.jgsla.org
We often meet at the Skirball or the Federation Building LIbrary on
Wilshire. There is a meeting there tomorrow night. Check out the website. If
you do attend, we can arrange to have a copy of Roots-Key, our journal there
for you.
If you prefer to contact Larry Tauber diredctly (as he is also a descendant
of HaTaz) his address is ltauber@ctswlaw.com

I also have a copy of the Jacoby files and could read the names to you over
the telephone.
Nancy

-----Original Message-----
>From: Reuven Chaim Klein <rachack@futurecities.com>
>Sent: Jun 17, 2006 10:25 PM
>To: 'nholden' <nholden@interserv.com>
>Subject: RE: [ravsig] Connecting to the TaZ and R' Yitzhak Segal CHARIF
>
>I would greatly appreciate it if you can send me a copy of the article
>concerning the TaZ. I myself happen to live in Los Angeles, but I don't
>really have any connection to the local branch of Jewish Gen here because I
>am almost always in school and have no time to really do anything extra,
and
>on the rare occasions which I have vacation I am always saddened to see
that
>the local JewishGen meetings are held in Reform and Conservative Temples
>which I am forbidden to enter. I have heard the JewishGen is making a
>presentation in a local synagouge close to me, Shaarey Tzedek in Valley
>Village, but I have school then, so I can't attend.
>
>Have you seen my genealogy site yet? The URL is
>http://www.myhomeloancompany.com and while it isn't as fancy as your site
>is, it used to be (see
>http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins )
>
>Gut Voch,
>
>=====
>Reuven Chaim Klein
>http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
>Vice President
>AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)
>
>(Attention: Usually I can only check my email on Friday Afternoon and
Motzei
>Shabbos.)
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: nholden [mailto:nholden@interserv.com]
>Sent: Monday, June 12, 2006 7:00 AM
>To: 'Reuven Chaim Klein'
>Subject: RE: [ravsig] Connecting to the TaZ and R' Yitzhak Segal CHARIF
>
>Larry Tauber published an article on HaTaz in Roots-Key, the Journal of
>JGSLA. Check http://www.jgsla.org under publications and index. If you want
>a copy, please let me know.
>
>The genealogy up to HaTaz is in the charts by Jacobs.
>
>HaTAz was married twice. His first wife died and he remarried the widow of
>Samuel Sirkes. His first wife was the sister of Sirkes.
>http://www.eliezerkaler.com
>
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Reuven Chaim Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
>Sent: Sunday, June 11, 2006 2:40 PM
>To: Rabbinic Genealogy SIG
>Subject: [ravsig] Connecting to the TaZ and R' Yitzhak Segal CHARIF
>
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>For quite some time now, I have known that my gggg-grandfather,
>Rabbi Binyamin Eliezer Ungar-Auerbach of Krakow (father of Rabbi
>Reuven Chaim Klein wrote the Shenos Chaim) married the daughter
>of Rabbi Ya'akov HaLevi from Wolbrom. Rav Ya'akov HaLevi was the
>brother of Rav Yosef Lichtig/Charif HaLevi. The brothers were in
>turn sons of Rabbi Tzvi Hirsch HaLevi, who was a direct male
>descendant of Rabbi Dovid Segal HaLevi, the TaZ (Turei Zahav).
>
>For some time I have been looking for the exact line of connection
>between Rav Tzvi Hirsch HaLevi and his direct male ancestor the TaZ.
>I have yet to get the exact line of lineage. However, I recently
>found out that the MaHaRSHA (who lived in the same era as the TaZ
>and was also a Levi) had a son-in-law named Rabbi Yitzchack Segal
>Charif HaLevi. I was wondering if this son-in-law of the MaHaRSHA
>had anything to do with the line which I am trying to trace here.
>
>(See http://www.myhomeloancompany.com/kleins for more of my research
>in my family's genealogy project.)
>
>Reuven Chaim Klein
>
>Surnames being researched:
>In Munkatch(Mukachevo) and its surrounding areas(especially a village
>called Kleczanev or Klyachanovo): ECKSTEIN, FREIDMAN, KLEIN,
>MERMELSTEIN, UNGAR-AUERBACH
>In Bonyhad, a village in Hungary: KUTTNER
>From anywhere: ISSERLES, WEISSBLUM, SIRKES
>Sender: "Reuven Chaim Klein" <rachack@futurecities.com>
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Descendants of the TAZ

Spund, Safier and Tauber Families

Helen = Rabbi Leopold Moses R. Joshua

Vogal Samuel Mordechai Shlomo=Riezel Chayim=Malka Rivkah=Einhorn Wagshal = Hindel Shlomo Baruch Yaacov

ú Rosenberg Rosenberg ú Labin Lieb Marcovic ú Shlomo Israel Leah Yechiel Naftali Akivah

Bilha= Avram ú ú ú ú ú ú Michal ú Shemaya ú ú ú ú

ú Hesh ú Bluma=Fievish Rosenberg ú

Esther=Mordechai Isaac ú Asher Zelig= Miriam

Weingraten Fogal Abraham=Mentzi Chaim Samuel Rivkah Bluma=Moses Naftali Steinmetz Channah Felzenberg

Indig ú úMeir ú ú ú Rosner ú Zvi ú (great-granddaughter

Malka ú of the Chatam Sofer)

Nechemia Chaim Channahú Abraham =Chaya Pollack

Rosenberg =Batya Leah Yuta Meir Reichel =Jacob Steinmetz

R.Abraham Eliezer ú ú ú ú ú Friedman ú

ú ú

R. Ezekiel Israel=Atya Abraham=Chava Naftali =Leah Malka Yechiel=Blima,daughter of

Abraham Menachumú Baruch Yuta Hertz Rosenberg Michal Shlomo Shemaryahu Traub Jerusalimski and Gratz

Weisel Cohen ú ú Fried ú ú Kagonoff Families Family

ú ú R. Chaim Yaacok Klapholtz

Baruch Israel Jacob Shraga Fiebush Zvi Reichel= Shlomo ú R. Nachum R. Isaac

Weisel Weisel Weisel Weisel Weisel Weisel Steinmetz Reuben = Jocheved Matil Jerusalimski Jerusalimski (Gratz)

ú ú ú ú ú ú Moredchai Klapholtzú ú ú

ú Liebus Chaya Sheindel daughter=Judah Gershon ú

Joshua ú ú Pickholtz Benjamin

Hager Abraham ú Henya Meshullam =daughter ú

Family Zvi Chaim ú Zushia Pickholtzú Jacob Zvi

R. Avram Klinger Aryeh Yechiel R. Judah Menachem Judah Zvi Steg ú

Weisel Menachem ú ú Michal Lieb Goldin Mendel ú R. Isaac Moses =daughter

R. Gad ú Mendel Joseph Joshua ú ú ú Joseph ú Greenbergú

ú R. Michal Hager ú ú R. David R. Moses Chaim Saul ú Dov Berish=Sarel Zev Wolf

R. Joel ú ú ú ú ú ú Yerucham = daughter ú ú

ú R. David Kopel=Chaya David R. Judah Daughter Baruch Fishel Steg ú Saul Zvi Hirsch

R. Moses Gad ú ú ú ú ú ú Joseph Halevi Meir ú ú

ú R. Michal Bluma=Zalman Esther Samuel Moses=wife David ú ú ú

R. Joel ú ú ú ú ú David David Deborah=Moses

ú ú ú ú └——┬┘ Dobrisch

R. Gad=daughter R. Shlomo Segal R. Mordechai R. Isaiah Samuel daughter=Meir Halperin

ú ú ú ú ú ú

ú

Rabbi David Halevi (the “Tur Zahav”)= Rebecca Sirkes (daughter of R. Joel Sirkes, author of Bayit Chadash)

Friday, June 23, 2006

Re: [ravsig] Connecting to the TaZ and R' Yitzhak Segal CHARIF


-----Original Message-----
From: Reuven Chaim Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 4:24 PM
To: 'nholden'
Subject: RE: [ravsig] Connecting to the TaZ and R' Yitzhak Segal CHARIF

Thanks.

Gut Shabbos,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
Vice President
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)

(Attention: Usually I can only check my email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei
Shabbos.)

-----Original Message-----
From: nholden [mailto:nholden@interserv.com]
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 12:51 PM
To: 'Reuven Chaim Klein'
Subject: RE: [ravsig] Connecting to the TaZ and R' Yitzhak Segal CHARIF

Try this. I had no trouble opening this copy.
Nancy
-----Original Message-----
From: Reuven Chaim Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 12:10 PM
To: 'nholden'
Subject: RE: [ravsig] Connecting to the TaZ and R' Yitzhak Segal CHARIF

Thank you for the PDF but it is password protected.
Gut Shabbos,
=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
Vice President
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)

(Attention: Usually I can only check my email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei
Shabbos.)

-----Original Message-----
From: nholden [mailto:nholden@interserv.com]
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2006 10:16 AM
To: 'Reuven Chaim Klein'
Subject: RE: [ravsig] Connecting to the TaZ and R' Yitzhak Segal CHARIF

If you have any questions, please contact Larry Tauber about his research
ltauber@ctswlaw.com
Nancy Holden
JGSLA

-----Original Message-----
From: Reuven Chaim Klein [mailto:rachack@futurecities.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2006 10:57 PM
To: ltauber@ctswlaw.com
Cc: nholden@interserv.com
Subject: RE: [ravsig] Connecting to the TaZ and R' Yitzhak Segal CHARIF

Would it be possible to just get the article without actually purchasing the
entire publication?

Gut Shabbos,

=====
Reuven Chaim Klein
http://www.myhomeloancompany.com
Vice President
AIM/AOL Screename: IAmRachack (Add|IM)

(Attention: Usually I can only check my email on Friday Afternoon and Motzei
Shabbos.)

-----Original Message-----
From: nholden@interserv.com [mailto:nholden@interserv.com]
Sent: Sunday, June 18, 2006 6:35 AM
To: Reuven Chaim Klein
Subject: RE: [ravsig] Connecting to the TaZ and R' Yitzhak Segal CHARIF

Dear Reuven,
I will gladly send you a copy of Larry Tauber's article. We have a policy of
charging for back issues. Please send 5$ to JGSLA P.O. BOx 55443 Sherman
Oaks Califonia 91413
Then send me your snail mail address.
I believe you have our organization confused with the JGS of Ventura County.
Our website is http://www.jgsla.org
We often meet at the Skirball or the Federation Building LIbrary on
Wilshire. There is a meeting there tomorrow night. Check out the website. If
you do attend, we can arrange to have a copy of Roots-Key, our journal there
for you.
If you prefer to contact Larry Tauber diredctly (as he is also a descendant
of HaTaz) his address is ltauber@ctswlaw.com

I also have a copy of the Jacoby files and could read the names to you over
the telephone.
Nancy

-----Original Message-----
>From: Reuven Chaim Klein <rachack@futurecities.com>
>Sent: Jun 17, 2006 10:25 PM
>To: 'nholden' <nholden@interserv.com>
>Subject: RE: [ravsig] Connecting to the TaZ and R' Yitzhak Segal CHARIF
>
>I would greatly appreciate it if you can send me a copy of the article
>concerning the TaZ. I myself happen to live in Los Angeles, but I don't
>really have any connection to the local branch of Jewish Gen here because I
>am almost always in school and have no time to really do anything extra,
and
>on the rare occasions which I have vacatio